Look, Donald Rumsfeld is a very important person in our recent history. He is a very interesting character. As I mentioned a week or so ago, Donald Rumsfeld has always thought of himself as the smartest person in the room. The Unknown Known. We tortured people. We are not Iraq or some third world country that do these things. Torture was something that the other guys, do but not us. We have had Americans arguing that we should torture people in certain situations. I think that we are the good guys. I don’t think that we need to ever torture in order to get information.