Mitt Romney has suspended his campaign. I’m not sure what that means. Does that mean that he will start it up again later?
Okay here’s a portion of what Mitt said, “This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose.”
“If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror,” he said during the conference. Members of the audience shouted, “No!” as Mr. Romney spoke.
Surrender to Terror? Isn’t that what the far Right is doing by infusing terror into everything. This kind of talk, surrender to terror,” makes me nauseated (or maybe it is that Mitt Romney is nauseating). The assumption is that liberals want to die by a crazed terrorist.
All that I know, is that it is possible to be safe and fight Al Qaeda without giving up my civil liberties. The government can listen to terrorist without listening in on my phone or looking at my e-mail. Under a real democrat, we should be able to kill or capture Osama bin Laden and his posse We should be able to create a system where we don’t have to fear opening our mail because of anathrax or some other chem-bio weapon.
Mitt, I’m really sorry to see you go. I have been doing all of this reading on Mormonism. I wanted to expose the lie that Mormonism is a flavor of Christianity. It is not. It is not even close. More on this later.
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From AP:
Mitt Romney will suspend his presidential campaign, NBC News has learned.
His withdrawal effectively cedes the Republican nomination to Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.
In a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington Thursday, Romney talked of Democratic Candidates Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama retreating in Iraq and declaring defeat. (more…)
I am telling you man, they are setting this up to put hillary/obama in office…
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One thing about Mormons they don’t attack other religions. They are above that nor do they speak out against other religions. They are over 12 million strong and less than 200 years old. I am a mormon and do not agree with everything they teach BUT, they do have a lot of good things going. So before you attack another religion remember they DO NOT attack what you believe. That is what freedom of religion means. To allow you to choose what YOU want to believe in. That is all that matters. So if the missionaries come to your door POLITELY say NO THANK YOU and they will leave you alone.
uh, margaret, I had the worst encounter with a mormon riding a bike, and he would take no for an answer….
I am a christian, and according to the bible, I live by the example of Christ, and not only did he not go door-to-door, but the scriptures make it clear about putting pearls before swine…
his religion has nothing to do with him pulling-out
its simply that, he knows who hillary is….
keith,
I have to agree there are some that are more eager than others. So I find with the Jehovah Witnesses that come door to door in groups. I was making the comment about how the mormons don’t attack others hoping Errington would reconsider attacking a religion based on what he has read. There are quite a few million people who wish to believe in something other than what you might believe in. But there are quite a few different religions out there. Do you also attack Jews for not believing in Jesus? The Islam, Hindu, Pentacostal people for not believing in your form of god or Jesus?
Romney has his faults and his beliefs were brought up and questioned But unless he was preaching the book of mormon then it should not have mattered. Huckabee goes around and states he wants the constitution to favor God more. Which book does he read? And if he were president and declares war or decides to bomb Iran. Will he say God told me to get rid of the Islam people they don’t believe in me?
I have joined 5 different churches in my life and have had problems with each one. I don’t knock anyone else’s just because ” I ” might not understand why they believe what they believe.
I found Romney the least harmful of the three. I am glad he is out because Obama now has a chance in Utah.
Question is, where have you been doing your reading? Let me guess, anti mormon sites.
I’ve also wondered why it is that people can go research the mormon religion at anti-mormon sites and somehow conclude that they are now well informed about mormons. E. Thompson, apparently you’ve done it, so explain to me how that works.
Isn’t that akin to asking the KKK for a dissertation on the plight of black’s in America? I think it is. Asking for an honest assessment of mormons from a group that has as the sole mission in life to discredit mormons is simply not intellectually sound. It serves for good propoganda, but really has no credibility.
You want to learn about mormons? Do you REALLY want to understand what it is we believe? Then ask me, or ask someone who is a faithful member. Sure, there are going to be some things you disagree with…but that’s okay. But, if at all want to validate you journalistic ability, do your research before you draw all of your hateful, damning conclusions. I’d be happy to help.
M –
I shine the light of truth on a religion when that religion as been misrepresented isn’t attacking.
If the leader of Mormon church tells Mitt Romney to invade China, as a good Mormon he <b>must</b> invade China. Mitt lied in public when he said that he doesn’t take orders from the leaders of the Mormon church. That’s an oxymoron in the Mormon church. The leader gets direct input from God. His thoughts and his sayings must be obeyed. This is in the Book of Mormon and re-enforced in the D&C.
One of the teachings of Joseph Smith (White Horse prophecy) is that the US constitution must be destroyed in order for a Mormon nation to raise up. It specifically says the US Constitution not just man-made laws but the US Constitution. The Mormon nation has to be formed in order for Christ to return. (different explanations here and here)
I don’t think that I have attacked or misquoted the Mormon religion. I think if someone is running for president and his religious demands his obedience to someone who talks to God then it is important to know exactly what he believes and how his believes will effect the way that he governs.
Romney is beholden to follow the prophet of the mormon church on issues of personal salvation ONLY. Any advice on policy, diplomacy, or how to the run the country is expressly NOT related to personal salvation simply by definition. The mormon doctrine states that it’s members are to be subject to the laws of the land and to presidents. Presidents and laws are NEVER to be subjected to the prophet, even when such influence COULD be exerted. There is NO OTHER Christian religion which holds such strong beliefs in the obedience and submission to the laws of the land. NONE!
Under mormon beliefs, if the prophet told Romeny to invade China, he would be issuing an edict contrary to the role of a prophet. It simply will not happen, and if such an edict were offered, it would be ignored.
What non-mormon’s fundamentaly don’t understand (or simply won’t acknowledge because it undermines their argument) is that mormon doctrine is not established by every word that comes out of the mouth of a prophet or apostle. FIRST AND FOREMOST, apostles and prophets are men, capable of making mistakes. They are also subject to personal opinions.
The bulk of anti-mormon literature quotes men who were apostles or general authorities of the church as the expressed an opinion about a particular point of doctrine. However, they are not official doctrine of the church. We don’t distance ourselves from their teachings, because the truth of the matter is we just don’t know…and we are okay not knowing all of the answers.
Whatever Joseph Smith’s personal opinions were about the constitution, only he can say. What we can all say as mormons is that we have no belief, no master plan, no intention to crush the constitution and take over the country. It is just pure ridiculous nonsense to prescribe such a belief to the mormon church. In fact, mormon’s believe that the constitution and it’s drafters were divinely inspired, and that only through the freedoms provided by that magnificent document was the church able to established.
So, YOU ARE misrepresenting the beliefs of the mormon church. Perhaps you are not aware of it, because like most you belive that mormon doctrine is an amalgamation of every word ever uttered by a senior leader of the church. But that simply is NOT true.
You’re free to carry on your crusade against mormonism, but know that you do so with little understanding and under false pretenses.
B –
I have spent time reading the Book of Mormon and the D&C. I figured that those were the best places to start. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Missed your comment before I posted mine. You post at huffingtonpost.com led me here. At huffpo you said: “Mormons beleive that they are the chosen people and that all others are going to Hell.” This is not true. D&C clearly contradicts this view. Only those who have a perfect knowledge of Christ and then deny him will be the sons of perdition, subjected to eternal damnation. Based upon my understanding of Evangelical doctrine, a VAST majority of people will be in Hell. According to mormon doctrine, this is absolutely reversed.
We do believe there are some sins that cannot be forgiven in THIS LIFE. Murder is one and being a son of perdition (described above) is the other. But, does that mean someone who murders will not receive forgiveness from Christ after death? Honestly, we don’t know. We only know that leaders in our church on earth are not authorized to grant such forgiveness.
The point is, you can read the BofM and the D&C, but so long as you turn to anti-mormon sites for their interpretation, you don’t get the truth. You get what they want you to believe, not what mormon’s actually belive.
We don’t have all of the answers, it’s as simple as that. Those who claim we have this intricate doctrine of secret passwords and handshakes that get us into heaven and keep everyone else out…it’s just plain silly. Conspiracy theory at it’s best. It’s not true.
As a member of a secular society, I’m a bit uncomfortable with the LDS leader’s claim to chats with the Almighty. Especially when a LDS member wants to put his finger on the nuke trigger.
It’s worth noting that in the U.S., when a patient claims to his psychiatrist that God speaks directly to him, the psychiatrist will place that patient on antipsychotic medication.
And don’t even think about calling me anti-Mormon. As long as we ask these questions and make these points respectfully we’re Constitutionally entitled to ask them. This is still the U.S.
If the pope were tell you he speaks to god do you believe him? Why? I am not there to say he did or he didn’t. I will not condemn someone who states he was talked to. Who am I to judge? I ask questions about all the different religions. I think it is interesting. But I will never comdemn someone for what they believe. It is not my place.
Jeff, you are entitled to ask them…I’ve said nothing here to indicate that I don’t believe that 100%. I do. And, I would never call you anti-mormon simply because you don’t believe in mormonism.
A key misconception about the mormon church is that we are all beholden to the prophet and everything he says…if we disagree or don’t follow his teachings, we are shunned, banned, excomunicated. NOT TRUE.
A central tenant of the mormon faith is free agency. I get to decide what I do and don’t do. The president of the mormon church tells us all to keep a years supply of food, to live within our means and get out of debt, to avoid wasting away our lives sitting in front of video games and other entertainment. However, there is no church based consequence for not following any of this advice.
It’s just absurd to disqualify Romney based upon his association with a group that believes that we were all created equal…that we should love one another…that we should be responsible and self-sufficient. It’s a position your free to make, but not a reasonable position based upon any evidence.
B –
Thanks for your passionate comments.
I’m kind of interested in your statement that we were all created equal. It is my understanding that in the Book of Mormon there were 2 clans that came to the New World. One clan was lead by an evil brother of the good clan. The Bad clan were cursed by God and therefore their skin was colored. Is this true?
Also, can a faithful woman obtain the level of spiritual enlightenment as a man? Does a woman have to be subservient to her man?
Again, thanks for your comments.
ecthompson –
I dissapeared and forgot to check back. Have to run, but I’ll I respond tomorrow.